Parallels on hackintosh

[buttcheeks]

I'm putting together a frankenstein PC machine to play with osX86. I'm guessing that if I install osX natively on it, then I should be able to then install and run windows with the Parallels solution because of the osX base. Does this sound feasible?

[gygysamurai]

feasible, but not legal

[OptimismPrime]

First of, i am not a Doc.....i mean....i do not yet own a intel Mac (need to save some more money for a MacBook Pro), so i can't say for sure.

But EVERY intel mac out yet (set aside the recalled dev boxes) uses CORE CPUs wich are intel VT enabled.

OSx86 thanks to some patches works with Intel and AMD CPUs alike, infact every CPU with at least SSE2 (through SSE3 -> SSE2 Emulation), better SSE3

on the Windows and Linux Versions of Parallels you can either enable or disable VT via Checkbox, because of course not every "PC CPU" supports it.
If Parallels for OSX however requires VT, as any LEGAL hardware it runs on supports it, that could be a problem for your Frankenstein Box unless you plan on using a VT enabled Intel CPU.

Secondly, LEGAL OSX communicates with the hardware via the EFI, whereas you FrankenMac would of course rely on BIOS and some patched in stuff from Darwin.

Again, i neither have a Intel Mac yet, nor my very own FrankenMac, so i can't say for sure....

But keep both points in mind before you spend money on a "cheaper than Apple - Mac" that doesn't work as expected.

[buttcheeks]

feasible, but not legal

Pardon my ignorance, but why? If I have a legimate copies of Tiger, XP, and Parallels, is the installation into a "bastard" machine illegal?

Just curious.

[WhiteEagle]

tried install on a pc your legal copy of tiger? no way unless you hack it... but apple dont want you to hack their osx...

[OptimismPrime]

the OS X EULA also states both,
that you are neither allowed to use "your" copy of OS X on Non-Apple-Brand hardware, nor to modify it.

So it is a double EULA violation, and therefore double-illegal.
And unfortunaly, that doesn't work like double negative in math where it would give you positive :D

[gygysamurai]

OptimismPrime pretty much nailed it. And I believe the only way to get OS X86 to work on a PC is to download the working image from a torrent site, I'm pretty sure the standard Intel discs won't work. And, as far as I'm concerned, downloading an operating system from the internet is illegal.

I must admit though, it would be pretty cool to have Apple on a PC

[buttcheeks]

Thanks. After much research, etc, I think I found that what one would need is the "intel" version of osX, but since it looks for the TPM, it certainly wouldn't find in on generic pc box. Personally, I have no need to run windows. But for messing around, thought it might be fun to try this. But looks bit more than I can do and as you pointed out, "double bad".

[learning_bird]

Yes,Parallels works hackintoshes but is a bit slow on anything but the Pentium D 900 series CPU's, because these have Intel's VT (Virtualization Technology) active.

Go to OSx86Project.org wiki and forums and learn waht you need abou hackintoshes.

[buttcheeks]

Yes,Parallels works hackintoshes but is a bit slow on anything but the Pentium D 900 series CPU's, because these have Intel's VT (Virtualization Technology) active.

Go to OSx86Project.org wiki and forums and learn waht you need abou hackintoshes.

Thanks for the message. Actually, I've done ALOT of studying on this since then, and built a hackintosh (Frankenmac?) I've got a lowly celeron running but so far parallels works. Haven't tried any heavy programs on it. This is all just for the science of it all, messing around to see if it can be done.

'cheeks

[learning_bird]

Thanks for the message. Actually, I've done ALOT of studying on this since then, and built a hackintosh (Frankenmac?) I've got a lowly celeron running but so far parallels works. Haven't tried any heavy programs on it. This is all just for the science of it all, messing around to see if it can be done.

'cheeks
Yup, it's fun to build a hackintosh.

I'm writing this on an Asus barebone box with an Intel 915G board and a Celeron D 331, 512 MB of RAM. Totally Mac OS X compatible, stable and amazingly powerful for such a humble CPU.

It blows any mac I have ( G3/G4 PMs, G3/G4 imacs, G3/G4 ibooks and a 1.5 GHz G4 mini ) and only a first generation iMacG5 I had previously could compete with this entry level Celeron. Thanks Steve for switching to Intel!

The only times when misbehaves is when running PPC only apps. One single app can sometimes capture 20 to 40% of my CPU resources, and one or two small old PPC apps where the only guilty of a freezed computer and a hardreboot. By contrast I can have up to 20 Universal apps running side by side with no problems.

[gavin8or]

OptimismPrime pretty much nailed it. And I believe the only way to get OS X86 to work on a PC is to download the working image from a torrent site, I'm pretty sure the standard Intel discs won't work. And, as far as I'm concerned, downloading an operating system from the internet is illegal.

I must admit though, it would be pretty cool to have Apple on a PC

OptimismPrime is technically right. Apple doesn't like people messing with their OS, but that doesn't mean that all companies discourage people playing with their products. I don't think it was any coincidence that bootcamp came out exactly when the EFI bootloader was hacked to load XP.
And you certainly can't say that downloading an OS from the internet is illegal. Linux is an example. What about downloading windows64 and then BUYING a legal license (off the internet). It depends on the licensing scheme but, if you can prove you have a legal license (or no license is required, ala linux, BSD, Darwin etc etc) then you can download the OS.

[OptimismPrime]

The thing here is not that it's illegal to download, it's illegal to use.

Even if you went into an Apple Store, or any other store that sells OSX, and buy a physical copy, by the EULA you are not allowed to use it on anything but Apple Hardware. And without modifying it, you will not be able to run it on anything but Apple Hardware.

So the thing is not that it is illegal to download stuff, or illegal to download stuff you have a valid license for, but that what you INTEND TO DO with the software is illegal in not only 1 way....and THAT is the problem.

It's like in the US with guns.
For the most part it is neither illegal to purchase guns, nor to own guns, nor even to use guns....but it IS illegal to take a gun and run into a mall and randomly shoot people.