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chicagomac
17th March 2006, 06:51 PM
Has anyone tried using the "CD Builder"?
Link: http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Windows_XP_CD_Builder

I wonder if the use of "cdimage.exe" instead of NERO will doom this attempt.

jann
17th March 2006, 07:02 PM
Has anyone tried using the "CD Builder"?
Link: http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Windows_XP_CD_Builder

I wonder if the use of "cdimage.exe" instead of NERO will doom this attempt.
Shouldn't ...

All Nero is used for is because narf, et al created the "Nero Image File" in order to ease the setup of the boot disk. As long as cdimage.exe allows the same boot.img to be used, and burning it using iso-joliet, it should work fine.

Jann

inkhead
17th March 2006, 08:17 PM
I don't understand, so with this tool, I don't need Nero? Do I need to have an original XP CD burned and in the disc drive, or just an .iso of it?

What exactly does this require?

The contents of the xp_on_mac + a XP full disc inserted into the drive on PC and it makes an ISO automatically?

Arneh
17th March 2006, 08:56 PM
Here's how it works.
You run the xpmacbuilder.exe, it asks you to type in what drive letter your cd rom drive or virtual cd rom drive letter is so it can copy XP CD files from it, then it asks you where you want to store temp build files, again you specify a location, and finally it asks you where to store the final ISO.

Once past that point, you insert or mount the XP CD into the drive letter you specified at the beginning of the setup and everything is automated after that.

If you've got any questions or issues, let me know. I wrote this app very quickly yesterday, and I think the created XP ISO should work fine on an Intel Mac though I don't have one to test it out. The point was not to be limited to Nero etc. and just have one simple app that can build an ISO that you can keep around and burn whenever necessary.

The builder has the xp_on_mac files from narf's patch, so all you need to provide is the XP CD or ISO.

Btw, if narf makes any updates to his method/files, you can then easily update the builder by replacing the files in the /xpmacbuilder/files/cdfiles/ folder with any updated files he has. The builder automatically copies whatever's in that folder.

NilObject
17th March 2006, 08:56 PM
Hah, that worked :)

I didn't even wait for it to copy all the files -- hard rebooted it after it started copying, and was prompted to reformat it again. Worked great :)

Almost done with setup part two. We'll see how it goes :)

Thanks for the help!

92GTA
17th March 2006, 09:16 PM
VERY nice!

Arneh
17th March 2006, 09:29 PM
Great. If you guys can keep me updated on whether this fully works or not, be much appreciated.

bagoffrog
17th March 2006, 09:39 PM
Could someone make a similar app to run in OS X? That would make me very happy.:)

Arneh
17th March 2006, 09:45 PM
If there's an OS X equivalent of cdimage.exe, basically a contained app that can build ISO's directly by taking in parameters allowing boot file etc., then it should be easily possible. However, I've got no experience with that kind of stuff under OS X, so can't help with that myself.

Steve1496
17th March 2006, 09:57 PM
I wonder if it runs in wine? I can't test now as I'm busy but I don't see why not (so long as wine allows CD drive access).

webnome
20th March 2006, 03:39 PM
Someone deleted my comments I made in the wiki about this so here goes. I followed the instructions on my PC exactly and burned the iso image using Disk Utility.( i do not have a burner in my pc) When I booted with the cd I got a bunch of weird characters and differnt colors in the upper left hand corner of my iMac. Then it just sat there. In the middle of the screen it got to the part where it said it was booting from the CD and then it stopped. My iMac was not locked up however, because I could still type h and get into the EFI menu. There was another comment made in the wiki by another user who also had issues with this.

compufix
20th March 2006, 03:39 PM
I am not promising anything, but I hope to work on an OSX version of this that is a shell script with prompting and some error checking to install the proper xom.efi file, make the slipstreamed XP CD and reboot.

I will work on it as I have a chance.....

compufix
22nd March 2006, 10:27 AM
I posted the utility xomhelper in the main forum. It is an Applescript/shell script combo that installs the appropriate xom.efi file based on user input and blesses the system. It also allows you to remove the xom.efi and rebless the system for normal booting.

It also allows the creation of the Slipstream CD from OSX. You still need to download the XOM archive and supply a CD or mounted image as a source..but I tested on a few machines (intel and ppc) and the cd creation works, as well as leaving behind a iso image of the CD for future burning.

-Compufix

eobet
22nd March 2006, 12:07 PM
Why did you use the rar format for the package? WinRAR costs money and the zip format is open source, isn't it?

Also, does this package take different versions into account, like for example, the Home/OEM fix:

http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Users/Windows_Versions

A nice initiative, in any case.

compufix
22nd March 2006, 12:42 PM
Why did you use the rar format for the package? WinRAR costs money and the zip format is open source, isn't it?

Also, does this package take different versions into account, like for example, the Home/OEM fix:

http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Users/Windows_Versions

A nice initiative, in any case.

I dont know if you replied to the original utililty for Windows, or for my utility. All my utility does basically is reproduce the human workflow for creating the CD's. I used XP PR SP2 myself in testing, but it may work for other versions. I dont do any testing for any type of versions or anything, it is actually a pretty stupid workflow that relies on the user input.

I zipped it up, and it is an OSX utility on a Disk Image to be used on OSX.

-Compufix

[EDIT] Never mind, I see you were talking about the original Windows utility....duh!...computing without coffee this morning.....

AdamG
24th March 2006, 12:00 AM
Regarding an OS X version -

You should be able to use the utility mkisofs to create the ISO. I'm not sure if its included in OS X off the top of my head, but i know it exists for it and is GPLed (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/9211). it supports .img bootable files like needed, and should work just as well as cdimage.exe

justajoker182
24th March 2006, 12:30 AM
It freezes at the grey windows icon

compufix
24th March 2006, 02:57 AM
Regarding an OS X version -

You should be able to use the utility mkisofs to create the ISO. I'm not sure if its included in OS X off the top of my head, but i know it exists for it and is GPLed (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/9211). it supports .img bootable files like needed, and should work just as well as cdimage.exe

That is what I use in xomhelper to create the iso....then use hdiutil to burn it. Works well.

-Compufix

elias1693
29th March 2006, 01:27 AM
I have followed the instructions for creating the ISO and burned that ISO to a CD but my mini will not boot to my slipstreamed disc. I have also tried the instructions listed at http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/HOWTO and I cannot get any slipstreamed XP CD to boot on my new 1.66 Intel Core Duo Mini. Any suggestions?

csshan
29th March 2006, 11:54 PM
It works fine, thank u

Thralni
9th April 2006, 10:40 AM
Hey,

This is a great utility. However, I haven't really tested it yet, only too make the XP SP2 install disc, and it seemed to work. However, I'm a bit confused as what to do with it. Its on my hard disk now. Do I just have to burn it on a CD? And with this CD I than can install the system? I read on the website of Apple, that I'll need something that will install the drivers too, otherwise XP won't recognise the Mac hardware. How does this work then, and in which order would I have to install it all?

Yes, I'm very confused, as I never did something like this. Could you answer these questions please? Preferable in a step by step manual?

Thanks in advance

mike_d85
8th January 2008, 09:46 PM
I am trying to use the Windows program to create the ISO and the ISO won't appear in a folder I created on the desktop. It said it had created the ISO, but it was nearly instant so I was skeptical and sure enough: nothing. Finally, I had to change the temp directory and the final directory to the hard drive to get it to actually copy.

I'm still waiting for it to finish. I just thought that you might want to know about the bug (I'm thinking spaces in the directory???).

mike_d85
8th January 2008, 10:21 PM
I just finished trying to boot from the CD and it's the same as a regular Windows install disk. Any suggestions?